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Rossco7's avatar

Are you saying that a there are millions of like minded contrarians calling themselves value investors ?

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When you never sell - you're a coffee canner - and you only buy when there's a long dividend track record and high yield because of some market panic or temporary situation punishing a stock, so the return you're getting is only the cash in dividends, are you then a speculator still? Surely you're speculating on the company continuing its capital allocation policy, and having the free cash to do it. It's a probabilistic decision. But if that is speculation, then if I buy a house because I want to live off the rent I get from the tenants, then I'm speculating as well, because gouvernment may turn socialist and tax all may gains away or seize my property, or Russia may bomb my country and house away, or an earthquake or or... Then all investment is speculation. Is that the point you want to drive home? But then all investment is futile, and we can just burn through our savings and go to the beach.

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